[0:05]If you disapprove of the Uttar Pradesh experiment, will you ensure that that does not happen in the center if you come to power? Yes, I'm prepared to give you a guarantee. that you will not make unscrupulous alliances, you will not pick up from other parties. Everything will be transparent, everything will be honest. Everything will be before the people.
[0:32]Mr. Nandy, what had happened during the last five years when Congress was ruling the country? When the majority was maintained, how majority was maintained? The Congress never took a high moral position, so nobody attributed morality with the Congress. So we are not attributing morality to the Congress. We are attributing morality to the BJP because BJP stands, claims and campaigns on moral positions. I thank you for your compliment. But we have to be in the game. Atal ji, your government in Uttar Pradesh and the charming list of criminals and history sheeters that it incorporates, has disillusioned many hardcore BJP loyalists. Has it disillusioned you to an extent? Or do you see it as center state relations? Well, I said earlier, I'm not very happy at what happened in Uttar Pradesh. But I have explained the circumstances under which we had to act. If you go to Uttar Pradesh now, people are happy. There is improvement in law and order situation. Criminals are being taken to task. How can we have a ministry which has criminals in its own ranks, dealing and taking to task criminals, as you said? How do you say that they are criminals? There are vast number of criminals. How do you define a criminal? There are people who have murder charges pending against them. Charges, no conviction. Mr. Vajpayee, you know how long it takes to convict people in India. But unless people, unless a person is convicted, how can you say that he is guilty? By that yardstick, you would have any number of criminals entering into politics. That's why the whole process has to be expedited. Law should not take such a long time.
[2:33]The court should not deliberate. Atal ji, those people who have been proved guilty by the court and have also been fined by the court for their guilt, he is the chief minister. That's a different matter. No, it is. That's a corruption case. Whatever it is, guilty. There is a difference between the two. Then he served a day's sentence. Then he was elected. Towards minorities or towards the communal problem of India, are your and Advani ji's views and attitudes the same or different? If they are the same, then the matter is over there. If they are different, then what is the difference? There is no difference. We all have one opinion, the whole party has one opinion. After all, when we formed the Jan Sangh, or today we are working under the name of Bharatiya Janata Party, we have kept our doors open for everyone. So we have not kept the doors open so that no one comes. We sincerely want Muslims to come with us. And that is why we have not only kept the doors of the party open, we have also kept the doors of our hearts open. More and more Muslims are realizing that other parties have used them as a vote bank. They have not cared about their well-being, their education, their employment. There are other issues that are on their minds, and the biggest issue is safety. When our Muslim brothers saw that in many states, governments have been formed that are either run by the Bharatiya Janata Party or in which the Bharatiya Janata Party is included, and there is peace and tranquility in them. Eid was celebrated with joy everywhere this time. This happened even in Maharashtra, where the Shiv Sena government is in power. So the fear of Muslims is slowly going away, and we hope that Muslim brothers will leave all kinds of fear and come to the field and work with their other brothers. We have to build this country together. And in this regard, there is no difference in my and Advani ji's views. But there is a perception that their opinion is generally that, and I think it is also in the Muslim community, that they consider you more tolerant and more open-minded. And they do not understand that you and Advani ji are exactly the same. So their misunderstanding should be removed. Secondly, it's good that you asked the question. I have answered it, and I hope that after this answer, there will be no misunderstanding.
