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[0:58]You know, take it apart and make it better, make it do different things, make it do cooler things.
[1:43]before it meant something about breaking into computers or something, it meant, guy who's sit all night long on any piece of borrowed equipment they can, trying to get program so ultimately perfect.
[1:43]Their stories reveal how hackers were the heroes of the computer revolution, but became outlaws in the world that they created.
[2:06]We imagine hacking to be all about computers, but it wouldn't be possible without the telephone network.
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[0:03]Hackers are the outlaws of the computer age. Snooping, stealing, spreading viruses. No one has a good word for them today. But it wasn't always so. This hacker started a revolution in computers.

[0:24]And this is the hacker who inspired them.

[0:31]And this is the hacker who followed in their footsteps and paid the price.

[0:58]Wozniak, hacking is about invention. We were making a difference for humanity with these little small computers. For John Draper, hacking is about experimentation. You know, take it apart and make it better, make it do different things, make it do cooler things.

[1:24]For Kevin Mitnick, hacking is about subversion. It's about the forbidden knowledge, it's about gangsterism.

[1:43]before it meant something about breaking into computers or something, it meant, guy who's sit all night long on any piece of borrowed equipment they can, trying to get program so ultimately perfect. Their stories reveal how hackers were the heroes of the computer revolution, but became outlaws in the world that they created.

[2:06]Where does this wire go? Well, you see, this is telephone wire. It's going to run from your house, the big cable on top of that pole. We imagine hacking to be all about computers, but it wouldn't be possible without the telephone network.

[2:27]When he stumbled across a secret world, it all began with a call from a guy named Danny, who promised to reveal the secrets of a new craze: phone freaking. He started to explain to me about phone freaks. I said, what's a phone freak? And he was explaining to me, well, we play with phones. I said, yeah, I can see that. I said, well, what do you do with phones? And he says, well, we we understand the system. I said, can you make free calls? He said, well, won't you come on over, I got a couple of friends over here that want to talk to you. I go to the door, it's Dan at the door, I said, I'm here to see Danny. He says, oh, come with me. Takes me to his room, open up his room and it's like pitch dark in there. He says, we don't turn on the lights. They're all blind, they don't need lights. So we got to talking and I said, show me one of these ways of making a free call, I'm really interested. We knew, of course, that it was illegal, and I guess part of the thrill of it, and it was it was it wasn't really just to rub out the phone company, it was the the technical challenge to be able to do it. At a time when calling long distance was a luxury, phone freaks found a way of doing it for free.

[3:35]Telephone networks were controlled by tones. Getting in was easy with the right equipment.

[3:49]This guy, right here, a Captain Crunch whistle, and if you glue this hole right here, like this. That's 2600. When you blow the whistle into the phone, a little chink sound, that's the acknowledgement coming in from the other side, saying, you're ready to process the call. Armed with a Captain Crunch whistle, phone freaks could seize control of telephone lines anytime, anyplace, anywhere. In fact, one of the things that we used to do is to go to the go to the airport, walk along blowing the whistle next to a bank of payphones, disconnect their calls. In the days when calls went through to operators, phone freaking wasn't possible. But as human switchboards were replaced by mechanical systems, different noises were used to trigger the switches.

[4:54]We'll see if I make it this time. This is really hard to do. It sounded like all the tones were present, so it so it should be ringing about now. Okay, it hit the phone. It just takes a little while to hit. He even showed off his skills for the local media, from his one phone to a town in Illinois and back to his other phone. A thousand mile phone call by whistling. Joe Engracia says he used to do these things because he is fascinated by the technology. Those are the precursors of the hackers. Those are the founding fathers. For phone freaks like Captain Crunch and Denny, the telephone system was a huge technological playground, full of sounds and switches to explore.

[5:56]The golden rule was never freak from home. If you did, the phone company could trace you. During the time that I was with Denny, I would pile Denny up in the Volkswagen van. We go out to the absolute smallest rural area we could find on a map. Go out there and just camp out at a pay phone and start hacking.

[6:22]Once they knew the tones that controlled the switches, phone freaks could travel down the lines from exchange to exchange and from city to city. But they needed better ways to make the tones. This was where John Draper's engineering expertise came in. Phone freaking was about to go high-tech with the invention of a gadget called the blue box. First thing I did was build a blue box. The case, you can get down at Radio Shack or anywhere else, it's just a standard old project case. The keyboard pad, I can think we got that from like a junkyard or something like that. The blue box is nothing more than a tone generating device. It generates a certain set of tones and the phone company thinks these tones are coming from their own switching equipment when indeed they're only coming from you. Basically, it's the key to the kingdom. If I wanted an operator in New York, I'd do key balls 121, start.

[7:31]It's foreign language.

[7:39]The fact the phone company allowed the system to be set up that way was really flabbergasting me. I couldn't believe that it was that easy to do. KP 182 start. The patterns of the numbers really intrigued me.

[7:54]I was actually in the in an upper level access of the phone company. I was I was in a in a real raw level of access. Blue box technology was freaking's big bang. The illicit network expanded and before long, phone freaks were holding secret meetings on conference lines deep inside the system. Most most people who were

[8:33]I'm in Florida, Derek. Hi. I never talked to you before. You and Australia? He did conferences in those days, were kind of like what the chat rooms are today.

[8:50]It was kind of like a secret society. This is the smallest, lightest, most easily concealed blue box now made by underground scientists.

[9:08]When phone freaks have a convention, people don't give their right names, masks are given out at the door. The early phone freaks, I think, had a had a did their freaking with the hacker mentality. One of the most complex systems on earth at that time was the phone system. And to be able to know its ins and outs was, you know, a very rich field of discovery. There was a guy that called himself around the world from the one pay phone, around the world of the pay phone beside him. He's like, hello, and there's a lag and hello. How are you?

[9:54]Social engineering aspect of freaking, Denny was the expert on that. That's just that's just the ability of going and talking to people on the inside of the phone company, uh, making them believe that you're working for the phone company. Ran, how you doing? Good, but this is uh, Bob from the uh, Alpine office in uh, Phoenix, Arizona. We had a test, uh, that we needed to run a a transmission test, uh, we need to have the sleeve lead, uh, broken off, uh, on the, uh, intercept strap and then put the strap back on. We can call the switch room, we can call the frame room, you can say, well, this is uh, Fresno here, we got translation error going into your trunk here. Could you pull up trunk number this, that, the other thing and and give me the trunk ID code for this, that and the other thing, you know. And the guy would do it. When the phone companies finally noticed the intrud

[10:44]He said that metropolitan gridlock was a prime target. Clearly, we're facing problems.

[10:51]Phone freaks were soon buzzing with stories about investigations by phone freaks.

[11:03]Their old mother didn't feel like keeping Mr. Duffy from doing anything, you see. One of the two federal agencies.

[11:15]You can't tell your colleagues in the Homebrew Computer Club what your product plans were.

[13:11]In 1971, Ron Rosenbaum's article on phone freaks was published in Esquire Magazine. I went to the library and I read I read the article and I my just my I couldn't believe it. It was just so exposing. I said, oh my God, and I knew right then and there that phone freaking as I knew it was ended. I read it to Denny over the phone, the whole thing. And everybody got on a conference call, one of the last conference calls we had and I read the article to everybody because they couldn't read it. And they couldn't believe it. I said, you guys really screwed up. You guys shouldn't have let this guy talk to you. Shouldn't have given this guy all this information. After the Esquire article, everyone jumped on the bandwagon.

[14:04]These parasites.

[14:17]And our accelerated program to catch phone freaks, which is more successful all the time. We find that we uh, we detect people who are businessmen, we find private detectives, stock brokers, automobile dealers. We've even found some some members of organized crime. The backlash hit the pioneers of phone freaking as hard as it hit the parasites. The LA people got busted. The Seattle people got busted. The New York people got busted. They came in, they had grand jury investigations coming in. They came to visit me, gave me a search warrant, searched my place since I wouldn't release heavily into it as I just got like a 10-day jail probation, it was suspended. And of course, everybody that got busted had my number. And I was I was made the kingpin because of the article. The authorities came down hard. Possession of a blue box could get you two years in jail. It was that one unlucky time that I just happened to have it. I get out of the car, right? And three cars went one in front of my car, one in back of my car, two in the side of car. The FBI is just jumped and grabbed me right there. Captain Crunch was federally indicted for wire fraud and served a total of four months in jail.

[16:18]Key to the whole revolution was a young engineering student called Steve Wozniak, whose world had been turned upside down by the Esquire article on blue boxing. It was the most amazing article I'd ever read. It was about engineers and technical people like myself outsmarting phone companies and setting up networks that nobody imagined existed. Wozniak was so enthused by the article that he set about building his own blue box. At first, I was just sticking some chips of my own design into a little a little blank board and soldering wires onto them. So when I got the blue box built, some of the tones were right and some were wrong. So we started looking for Captain Crunch. After his cover had been blown by Esquire, John Draper was trying to keep a low profile. He'd even stopped his occasional appearances on local pirate radio. Everyone said John Draper was Captain Crunch, so we put a call into the radio station, we asked for John Draper to call us. And they said, oh, he dropped out of sight right after the Esquire article and we knew we had the right one. 10 minutes later, the phone rang. He says, oh my God. This is bad news. It was him, and he said, he'd come up to Berkeley to meet us in the dorm. And I felt like, you know, like if you were bringing the president home.

[17:48]I felt like a hero. I said, well, I guess uh, I guess it'll be okay because I'm in I'm in a dorm. And if you're pretty hard to like track any one person making this call. And Wozniak, can you call the Pope? I said, I guess so. So I got the number to the Vatican, and we called the Vatican, and we asked for the Pope. You know, he said, well, the Pope's not available right now. This is like 4:00 in the morning. started learning learning um, codes that night from uh, from John Draper and from other people and techniques to use and talking operators into things and started practicing on my own over the weeks and seeing what I could couldn't accomplish. And then I think I was kind of scared that I could get caught.

[18:34]The Apple II introduced the idea that it was completely in a plastic case like a Hi-Fi or a radio that you bought. You just take it home and turn it on and it starts working. Assembling the first Apples by hand in Woz's bedroom, it had looked like a bit of a long shot. But the balance sheet at Apple soon told a different story. I got a phone call from Steve and he said, guess what? I got a $50,000 order. When you're putting up a few hundred bucks each, wondering if you're getting your money back, and he says he's got a $50,000 order, it is such a huge shaking your world. What?

[19:27]Woz's hobby computer was transformed into the hottest consumer product around. The Apple II introduced the idea that it was completely in a plastic case like a Hi-Fi or a radio that you bought. You just take it home and turn it on and it starts working. Assembling the first Apples by hand in Woz's bedroom, it had looked like a bit of a long shot. But the balance sheet at Apple soon told a different story. I got a phone call from Steve and he said, guess what? I got a $50,000 order. When you're putting up a few hundred bucks each, wondering if you're getting your money back, and he says he's got a $50,000 order, it is such a huge shaking your world. What?

[20:12]Woz's hobby computer was transformed into the hottest consumer product around. The Apple II introduced the idea that it was completely in a plastic case like a Hi-Fi or a radio that you bought. You just take it home and turn it on and it starts working. Assembling the first Apples by hand in Woz's bedroom, it had looked like a bit of a long shot. But the balance sheet at Apple soon told a different story. I got a phone call from Steve and he said, guess what? I got a $50,000 order. When you're putting up a few hundred bucks each, wondering if you're getting your money back, and he says he's got a $50,000 order, it is such a huge shaking your world. What?

[20:57]Woz's hobby computer was transformed into the hottest consumer product around. The Apple II introduced the idea that it was completely in a plastic case like a Hi-Fi or a radio that you bought. You just take it home and turn it on and it starts working. Assembling the first Apples by hand in Woz's bedroom, it had looked like a bit of a long shot. But the balance sheet at Apple soon told a different story. I got a phone call from Steve and he said, guess what? I got a $50,000 order. When you're putting up a few hundred bucks each, wondering if you're getting your money back, and he says he's got a $50,000 order, it is such a huge shaking your world. What?

[21:42]Woz's hobby computer was transformed into the hottest consumer product around. The Apple II introduced the idea that it was completely in a plastic case like a Hi-Fi or a radio that you bought. You just take it home and turn it on and it starts working. Assembling the first Apples by hand in Woz's bedroom, it had looked like a bit of a long shot. But the balance sheet at Apple soon told a different story. I got a phone call from Steve and he said, guess what? I got a $50,000 order. When you're putting up a few hundred bucks each, wondering if you're getting your money back, and he says he's got a $50,000 order, it is such a huge shaking your world. What?

[22:27]Woz's hobby computer was transformed into the hottest consumer product around. The Apple II introduced the idea that it was completely in a plastic case like a Hi-Fi or a radio that you bought. You just take it home and turn it on and it starts working. Assembling the first Apples by hand in Woz's bedroom, it had looked like a bit of a long shot. But the balance sheet at Apple soon told a different story. I got a phone call from Steve and he said, guess what? I got a $50,000 order. When you're putting up a few hundred bucks each, wondering if you're getting your money back, and he says he's got a $50,000 order, it is such a huge shaking your world. What?

[23:12]Woz's hobby computer was transformed into the hottest consumer product around. The Apple II introduced the idea that it was completely in a plastic case like a Hi-Fi or a radio that you bought. You just take it home and turn it on and it starts working. Assembling the first Apples by hand in Woz's bedroom, it had looked like a bit of a long shot. But the balance sheet at Apple soon told a different story. I got a phone call from Steve and he said, guess what? I got a $50,000 order. When you're putting up a few hundred bucks each, wondering if you're getting your money back, and he says he's got a $50,000 order, it is such a huge shaking your world. What?

[23:57]Woz's hobby computer was transformed into the hottest consumer product around. The Apple II introduced the idea that it was completely in a plastic case like a Hi-Fi or a radio that you bought. You just take it home and turn it on and it starts working. Assembling the first Apples by hand in Woz's bedroom, it had looked like a bit of a long shot. But the balance sheet at Apple soon told a different story. I got a phone call from Steve and he said, guess what? I got a $50,000 order. When you're putting up a few hundred bucks each, wondering if you're getting your money back, and he says he's got a $50,000 order, it is such a huge shaking your world. What?

[24:42]Woz's hobby computer was transformed into the hottest consumer product around. The Apple II introduced the idea that it was completely in a plastic case like a Hi-Fi or a radio that you bought. You just take it home and turn it on and it starts working. Assembling the first Apples by hand in Woz's bedroom, it had looked like a bit of a long shot. But the balance sheet at Apple soon told a different story. I got a phone call from Steve and he said, guess what? I got a $50,000 order. When you're putting up a few hundred bucks each, wondering if you're getting your money back, and he says he's got a $50,000 order, it is such a huge shaking your world. What?

[25:27]Woz's hobby computer was transformed into the hottest consumer product around. The Apple II introduced the idea that it was completely in a plastic case like a Hi-Fi or a radio that you bought. You just take it home and turn it on and it starts working. Assembling the first Apples by hand in Woz's bedroom, it had looked like a bit of a long shot. But the balance sheet at Apple soon told a different story. I got a phone call from Steve and he said, guess what? I got a $50,000 order. When you're putting up a few hundred bucks each, wondering if you're getting your money back, and he says he's got a $50,000 order, it is such a huge shaking your world. What?

[26:12]Woz's hobby computer was transformed into the hottest consumer product around. The Apple II introduced the idea that it was completely in a plastic case like a Hi-Fi or a radio that you bought. You just take it home and turn it on and it starts working. Assembling the first Apples by hand in Woz's bedroom, it had looked like a bit of a long shot. But the balance sheet at Apple soon told a different story. I got a phone call from Steve and he said, guess what? I got a $50,000 order. When you're putting up a few hundred bucks each, wondering if you're getting your money back, and he says he's got a $50,000 order, it is such a huge shaking your world. What?

[26:57]Woz's hobby computer was transformed into the hottest consumer product around. The Apple II introduced the idea that it was completely in a plastic case like a Hi-Fi or a radio that you bought. You just take it home and turn it on and it starts working. Assembling the first Apples by hand in Woz's bedroom, it had looked like a bit of a long shot. But the balance sheet at Apple soon told a different story. I got a phone call from Steve and he said, guess what? I got a $50,000 order. When you're putting up a few hundred bucks each, wondering if you're getting your money back, and he says he's got a $50,000 order, it is such a huge shaking your world. What?

[27:42]Woz's hobby computer was transformed into the hottest consumer product around. The Apple II introduced the idea that it was completely in a plastic case like a Hi-Fi or a radio that you bought. You just take it home and turn it on and it starts working. Assembling the first Apples by hand in Woz's bedroom, it had looked like a bit of a long shot. But the balance sheet at Apple soon told a different story. I got a phone call from Steve and he said, guess what? I got a $50,000 order. When you're putting up a few hundred bucks each, wondering if you're getting your money back, and he says he's got a $50,000 order, it is such a huge shaking your world. What?

[28:27]Woz's hobby computer was transformed into the hottest consumer product around. The Apple II introduced the idea that it was completely in a plastic case like a Hi-Fi or a radio that you bought. You just take it home and turn it on and it starts working. Assembling the first Apples by hand in Woz's bedroom, it had looked like a bit of a long shot. But the balance sheet at Apple soon told a different story. I got a phone call from Steve and he said, guess what? I got a $50,000 order. When you're putting up a few hundred bucks each, wondering if you're getting your money back, and he says he's got a $50,000 order, it is such a huge shaking your world. What?

[29:12]Woz's hobby computer was transformed into the hottest consumer product around. The Apple II introduced the idea that it was completely in a plastic case like a Hi-Fi or a radio that you bought. You just take it home and turn it on and it starts working. Assembling the first Apples by hand in Woz's bedroom, it had looked like a bit of a long shot. But the balance sheet at Apple soon told a different story. I got a phone call from Steve and he said, guess what? I got a $50,000 order. When you're putting up a few hundred bucks each, wondering if you're getting your money back, and he says he's got a $50,000 order, it is such a huge shaking your world. What?

[29:57]Woz's hobby computer was transformed into the hottest consumer product around. The Apple II introduced the idea that it was completely in a plastic case like a Hi-Fi or a radio that you bought. You just take it home and turn it on and it starts working. Assembling the first Apples by hand in Woz's bedroom, it had looked like a bit of a long shot. But the balance sheet at Apple soon told a different story. I got a phone call from Steve and he said, guess what? I got a $50,000 order. When you're putting up a few hundred bucks each, wondering if you're getting your money back, and he says he's got a $50,000 order, it is such a huge shaking your world. What?

[30:42]Woz's hobby computer was transformed into the hottest consumer product around. The Apple II introduced the idea that it was completely in a plastic case like a Hi-Fi or a radio that you bought. You just take it home and turn it on and it starts working. Assembling the first Apples by hand in Woz's bedroom, it had looked like a bit of a long shot. But the balance sheet at Apple soon told a different story. I got a phone call from Steve and he said, guess what? I got a $50,000 order. When you're putting up a few hundred bucks each, wondering if you're getting your money back, and he says he's got a $50,000 order, it is such a huge shaking your world. What?

[31:27]Woz's hobby computer was transformed into the hottest consumer product around. The Apple II introduced the idea that it was completely in a plastic case like a Hi-Fi or a radio that you bought. You just take it home and turn it on and it starts working. Assembling the first Apples by hand in Woz's bedroom, it had looked like a bit of a long shot. But the balance sheet at Apple soon told a different story. I got a phone call from Steve and he said, guess what? I got a $50,000 order. When you're putting up a few hundred bucks each, wondering if you're getting your money back, and he says he's got a $50,000 order, it is such a huge shaking your world. What?

[32:12]Woz's hobby computer was transformed into the hottest consumer product around. The Apple II introduced the idea that it was completely in a plastic case like a Hi-Fi or a radio that you bought. You just take it home and turn it on and it starts working. Assembling the first Apples by hand in Woz's bedroom, it had looked like a bit of a long shot. But the balance sheet at Apple soon told a different story. I got a phone call from Steve and he said, guess what? I got a $50,000 order. When you're putting up a few hundred bucks each, wondering if you're getting your money back, and he says he's got a $50,000 order, it is such a huge shaking your world. What?

[32:57]Woz's hobby computer was transformed into the hottest consumer product around. The Apple II introduced the idea that it was completely in a plastic case like a Hi-Fi or a radio that you bought. You just take it home and turn it on and it starts working. Assembling the first Apples by hand in Woz's bedroom, it had looked like a bit of a long shot. But the balance sheet at Apple soon told a different story. I got a phone call from Steve and he said, guess what? I got a $50,000 order. When you're putting up a few hundred bucks each, wondering if you're getting your money back, and he says he's got a $50,000 order, it is such a huge shaking your world. What?

[33:42]Woz's hobby computer was transformed into the hottest consumer product around. The Apple II introduced the idea that it was completely in a plastic case like a Hi-Fi or a radio that you bought. You just take it home and turn it on and it starts working. Assembling the first Apples by hand in Woz's bedroom, it had looked like a bit of a long shot. But the balance sheet at Apple soon told a different story. I got a phone call from Steve and he said, guess what? I got a $50,000 order. When you're putting up a few hundred bucks each, wondering if you're getting your money back, and he says he's got a $50,000 order, it is such a huge shaking your world. What?

[34:27]Woz's hobby computer was transformed into the hottest consumer product around. The Apple II introduced the idea that it was completely in a plastic case like a Hi-Fi or a radio that you bought. You just take it home and turn it on and it starts working. Assembling the first Apples by hand in Woz's bedroom, it had looked like a bit of a long shot. But the balance sheet at Apple soon told a different story. I got a phone call from Steve and he said, guess what? I got a $50,000 order. When you're putting up a few hundred bucks each, wondering if you're getting your money back, and he says he's got a $50,000 order, it is such a huge shaking your world. What?

[35:12]Woz's hobby computer was transformed into the hottest consumer product around. The Apple II introduced the idea that it was completely in a plastic case like a Hi-Fi or a radio that you bought. You just take it home and turn it on and it starts working. Assembling the first Apples by hand in Woz's bedroom, it had looked like a bit of a long shot. But the balance sheet at Apple soon told a different story. I got a phone call from Steve and he said, guess what? I got a $50,000 order. When you're putting up a few hundred bucks each, wondering if you're getting your money back, and he says he's got a $50,000 order, it is such a huge shaking your world. What?

[35:57]Woz's hobby computer was transformed into the hottest consumer product around. The Apple II introduced the idea that it was completely in a plastic case like a Hi-Fi or a radio that you bought. You just take it home and turn it on and it starts working. Assembling the first Apples by hand in Woz's bedroom, it had looked like a bit of a long shot. But the balance sheet at Apple soon told a different story. I got a phone call from Steve and he said, guess what? I got a $50,000 order. When you're putting up a few hundred bucks each, wondering if you're getting your money back, and he says he's got a $50,000 order, it is such a huge shaking your world. What?

[36:42]Woz's hobby computer was transformed into the hottest consumer product around. The Apple II introduced the idea that it was completely in a plastic case like a Hi-Fi or a radio that you bought. You just take it home and turn it on and it starts working. Assembling the first Apples by hand in Woz's bedroom, it had looked like a bit of a long shot. But the balance sheet at Apple soon told a different story. I got a phone call from Steve and he said, guess what? I got a $50,000 order. When you're putting up a few hundred bucks each, wondering if you're getting your money back, and he says he's got a $50,000 order, it is such a huge shaking your world. What?

[37:27]Woz's hobby computer was transformed into the hottest consumer product around. The Apple II introduced the idea that it was completely in a plastic case like a Hi-Fi or a radio that you bought. You just take it home and turn it on and it starts working. Assembling the first Apples by hand in Woz's bedroom, it had looked like a bit of a long shot. But the balance sheet at Apple soon told a different story. I got a phone call from Steve and he said, guess what? I got a $50,000 order. When you're putting up a few hundred bucks each, wondering if you're getting your money back, and he says he's got a $50,000 order, it is such a huge shaking your world. What?

[38:12]Woz's hobby computer was transformed into the hottest consumer product around. The Apple II introduced the idea that it was completely in a plastic case like a Hi-Fi or a radio that you bought. You just take it home and turn it on and it starts working. Assembling the first Apples by hand in Woz's bedroom, it had looked like a bit of a long shot. But the balance sheet at Apple soon told a different story. I got a phone call from Steve and he said, guess what? I got a $50,000 order. When you're putting up a few hundred bucks each, wondering if you're getting your money back, and he says he's got a $50,000 order, it is such a huge shaking your world. What?

[38:57]Woz's hobby computer was transformed into the hottest consumer product around. The Apple II introduced the idea that it was completely in a plastic case like a Hi-Fi or a radio that you bought. You just take it home and turn it on and it starts working. Assembling the first Apples by hand in Woz's bedroom, it had looked like a bit of a long shot. But the balance sheet at Apple soon told a different story. I got a phone call from Steve and he said, guess what? I got a $50,000 order. When you're putting up a few hundred bucks each, wondering if you're getting your money back, and he says he's got a $50,000 order, it is such a huge shaking your world. What?

[39:42]Woz's hobby computer was transformed into the hottest consumer product around. The Apple II introduced the idea that it was completely in a plastic case like a Hi-Fi or a radio that you bought. You just take it home and turn it on and it starts working. Assembling the first Apples by hand in Woz's bedroom, it had looked like a bit of a long shot. But the balance sheet at Apple soon told a different story. I got a phone call from Steve and he said, guess what? I got a $50,000 order. When you're putting up a few hundred bucks each, wondering if you're getting your money back, and he says he's got a $50,000 order, it is such a huge shaking your world. What?

[40:27]Woz's hobby computer was transformed into the hottest consumer product around. The Apple II introduced the idea that it was completely in a plastic case like a Hi-Fi or a radio that you bought. You just take it home and turn it on and it starts working. Assembling the first Apples by hand in Woz's bedroom, it had looked like a bit of a long shot. But the balance sheet at Apple soon told a different story. I got a phone call from Steve and he said, guess what? I got a $50,000 order. When you're putting up a few hundred bucks each, wondering if you're getting your money back, and he says he's got a $50,000 order, it is such a huge shaking your world. What?

[41:12]Woz's hobby computer was transformed into the hottest consumer product around. The Apple II introduced the idea that it was completely in a plastic case like a Hi-Fi or a radio that you bought. You just take it home and turn it on and it starts working. Assembling the first Apples by hand in Woz's bedroom, it had looked like a bit of a long shot. But the balance sheet at Apple soon told a different story. I got a phone call from Steve and he said, guess what? I got a $50,000 order. When you're putting up a few hundred bucks each, wondering if you're getting your money back, and he says he's got a $50,000 order, it is such a huge shaking your world. What?

[41:57]Woz's hobby computer was transformed into the hottest consumer product around. The Apple II introduced the idea that it was completely in a plastic case like a Hi-Fi or a radio that you bought. You just take it home and turn it on and it starts working. Assembling the first Apples by hand in Woz's bedroom, it had looked like a bit of a long shot. But the balance sheet at Apple soon told a different story. I got a phone call from Steve and he said, guess what? I got a $50,000 order. When you're putting up a few hundred bucks each, wondering if you're getting your money back, and he says he's got a $50,000 order, it is such a huge shaking your world. What?

[42:42]Woz's hobby computer was transformed into the hottest consumer product around. The Apple II introduced the idea that it was completely in a plastic case like a Hi-Fi or a radio that you bought. You just take it home and turn it on and it starts working. Assembling the first Apples by hand in Woz's bedroom, it had looked like a bit of a long shot. But the balance sheet at Apple soon told a different story. I got a phone call from Steve and he said, guess what? I got a $50,000 order. When you're putting up a few hundred bucks each, wondering if you're getting your money back, and he says he's got a $50,000 order, it is such a huge shaking your world. What?

[43:27]Woz's hobby computer was transformed into the hottest consumer product around. The Apple II introduced the idea that it was completely in a plastic case like a Hi-Fi or a radio that you bought. You just take it home and turn it on and it starts working. Assembling the first Apples by hand in Woz's bedroom, it had looked like a bit of a long shot. But the balance sheet at Apple soon told a different story. I got a phone call from Steve and he said, guess what? I got a $50,000 order. When you're putting up a few hundred bucks each, wondering if you're getting your money back, and he says he's got a $50,000 order, it is such a huge shaking your world. What?

[44:12]Woz's hobby computer was transformed into the hottest consumer product around. The Apple II introduced the idea that it was completely in a plastic case like a Hi-Fi or a radio that you bought. You just take it home and turn it on and it starts working. Assembling the first Apples by hand in Woz's bedroom, it had looked like a bit of a long shot. But the balance sheet at Apple soon told a different story. I got a phone call from Steve and he said, guess what? I got a $50,000 order. When you're putting up a few hundred bucks each, wondering if you're getting your money back, and he says he's got a $50,000 order, it is such a huge shaking your world. What?

[44:57]Woz's hobby computer was transformed into the hottest consumer product around. The Apple II introduced the idea that it was completely in a plastic case like a Hi-Fi or a radio that you bought. You just take it home and turn it on and it starts working. Assembling the first Apples by hand in Woz's bedroom, it had looked like a bit of a long shot. But the balance sheet at Apple soon told a different story. I got a phone call from Steve and he said, guess what? I got a $50,000 order. When you're putting up a few hundred bucks each, wondering if you're getting your money back, and he says he's got a $50,000 order, it is such a huge shaking your world. What?

[45:42]Woz's hobby computer was transformed into the hottest consumer product around. The Apple II introduced the idea that it was completely in a plastic case like a Hi-Fi or a radio that you bought. You just take it home and turn it on and it starts working. Assembling the first Apples by hand in Woz's bedroom, it had looked like a bit of a long shot. But the balance sheet at Apple soon told a different story. I got a phone call from Steve and he said, guess what? I got a $50,000 order. When you're putting up a few hundred bucks each, wondering if you're getting your money back, and he says he's got a $50,000 order, it is such a huge shaking your world. What?

[46:27]Woz's hobby computer was transformed into the hottest consumer product around. The Apple II introduced the idea that it was completely in a plastic case like a Hi-Fi or a radio that you bought. You just take it home and turn it on and it starts working. Assembling the first Apples by hand in Woz's bedroom, it had looked like a bit of a long shot. But the balance sheet at Apple soon told a different story. I got a phone call from Steve and he said, guess what? I got a $50,000 order. When you're putting up a few hundred bucks each, wondering if you're getting your money back, and he says he's got a $50,000 order, it is such a huge shaking your world. What?

[47:12]Woz's hobby computer was transformed into the hottest consumer product around. The Apple II introduced the idea that it was completely in a plastic case like a Hi-Fi or a radio that you bought. You just take it home and turn it on and it starts working. Assembling the first Apples by hand in Woz's bedroom, it had looked like a bit of a long shot. But the balance sheet at Apple soon told a different story. I got a phone call from Steve and he said, guess what? I got a $50,000 order. When you're putting up a few hundred bucks each, wondering if you're getting your money back, and he says he's got a $50,000 order, it is such a huge shaking your world. What?

[47:57]Woz's hobby computer was transformed into the hottest consumer product around. The Apple II introduced the idea that it was completely in a plastic case like a Hi-Fi or a radio that you bought. You just take it home and turn it on and it starts working. Assembling the first Apples by hand in Woz's bedroom, it had looked like a bit of a long shot. But the balance sheet at Apple soon told a different story. I got a phone call from Steve and he said, guess what? I got a $50,000 order. When you're putting up a few hundred bucks each, wondering if you're getting your money back, and he says he's got a $50,000 order, it is such a huge shaking your world. What?

[48:42]Woz's hobby computer was transformed into the hottest consumer product around. The Apple II introduced the idea that it was completely in a plastic case like a Hi-Fi or a radio that you bought. You just take it home and turn it on and it starts working. Assembling the first Apples by hand in Woz's bedroom, it had looked like a bit of a long shot. But the balance sheet at Apple soon told a different story. I got a phone call from Steve and he said, guess what? I got a $50,000 order. When you're putting up a few hundred bucks each, wondering if you're getting your money back, and he says he's got a $50,000 order, it is such a huge shaking your world. What?

[49:27]Woz's hobby computer was transformed into the hottest consumer product around. The Apple II introduced the idea that it was completely in a plastic case like a Hi-Fi or a radio that you bought. You just take it home and turn it on and it starts working. Assembling the first Apples by hand in Woz's bedroom, it had looked like a bit of a long shot. But the balance sheet at Apple soon told a different story. I got a phone call from Steve and he said, guess what? I got a $50,000 order. When you're putting up a few hundred bucks each, wondering if you're getting your money back, and he says he's got a $50,000 order, it is such a huge shaking your world. What?

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