[0:00]Huge tuning changes just came in for Havoc and Devour Demon Hunter, and lots of things are changing now. So, let's break it down. Alright, everybody, so hello, hello, hello. Of course, Voodoo here. So we're going to break down the tuning changes and then talk about Sims and stuff. Um, sorry for not doing this last night. I was busy doing the Devour guides, but also I just wanted to wait and make sure we had all the information and didn't feel like posting a video at midnight my time. So, here we go. We're getting in today instead. Um, so, lots has actually changed here. Um, Devour got nerfs. Havoc got some pretty big buffs when like, probably didn't need it bigger than it got. A bunch of other specs got crazy tuning changes, um, it's just a wild tuning pass for how close we are to season launch. But, also, max level play has given us data. None of this stuff gave them data. You had the same data on beta. Anyways, we're going to rant at the end probably. Here's the Demon Hunter stuff. This is what you're here for. So, Devour very simple, all damage dealt reduced by 4%. Expected. I think this is what we expected we get. Now, the spec above us got less, and some specs below us got more. So, I'm a little annoyed by that, but, you know, it is what it is. I think Devour will be very good. There's a lot of cleave in these fights, and Devour scales kind of really insane to cleave. You get a lot of damage for each additional target present. We'll go over that in the Sims and stuff. Um, but I still think Devour will be very good. Now, Havoc got some crazy stuff. Um, Havoc for those that that didn't know, was actually pretty good. It was at like a 103, 104k, which in terms of overall tuning was actually in like a really good spot. Um, but it got crazy buffs. Uh, so 6% just flat damage increase. That's a lot. Now, the thing with this is that we're not sure if this affects, um, melee, like auto attacks or not. Sometimes this does affect auto attacks, sometimes this doesn't affect auto attacks. So, hard to say, we won't know till Tuesday. Um, if this does does impact auto attacks, then Havoc is going to be a little bit higher. If it doesn't, then that's what the Sims are for, but we'll get there after. So, on top of the all damage increased, Immo got a 10% buff. Pretty good. That's really good AoE damage. Burning Wound got nerfs, just to kind of offset the single target damage gain from Immolation Aura. This doesn't really matter, just in general. Uh, and then Ragefire got buffed. Now, I will say, obviously Ragefire is very good, but Ragefire coming into Midnight is worse than people remember it being. Few reasons for that, one, obviously we have much less crit and much less mastery, which means that in general, your Immolation Aura is just dealing less damage. But on top of that, A Fire Inside was changed. So, it's now just a 6-second reduction on cool down, which means that like it's more consistent, but you will get less of them at like a high-end high roll. You'll get more baseline, so like the floor is higher, but the ceiling is much lower. So, while while your Ragefire is really strong and this is a great buff for it, it isn't as strong as people remember it being because we've lost so much mastery, we've lost so much critical strike, and A Fire Inside high rolls are gone. That being said, this is very good buffs. Um, Essence Break got buffed. Essence Break is in a weird spot. It's very good AoE. It's single target is kind of okay. It was close in Sims, but you still probably aren't playing it. Uh, I think it was like 1.4% behind. I looked to the Sims, or it did. Um, I've been a little out of loop on Havoc stuff, but I'm catching back up to it. Um, it's like fine. It, it's more AoE focused now than single target focused where it was in the past. So, this is a good little buff, but, you know, uh, Glaive Tempest 10% increase is good. They also fixed the bug where it wouldn't drop when you're moving. There's still a bug where it can drop in a weird spot when you double Death Sweep, but this is much better. It's actually great AoE damage. Not sure if we're going to play it because obviously it does nothing on less targets than, like, it needs to hit three targets to proc, but, hard to say right now. And then a bunch of Aldrachi Reaver buffs. Aldrachi Reaver was pretty bad. Um, now it's not. I don't know what else to say about that. So, Reaver's Glaive and Fury the Aldrachi got buffed. Reaver's Glaive is the glaive you throw. Fury the Aldrachi is the slashes from your Blade Dance. Both those got buffed. Thrill of the Fight Haste bonus got buffed. Oh, who cares? Honestly, like this is a really bad buff.
[3:59]Uh, not the buff to it, but like Thrill of the Fight is horrible now. Yeah, it doesn't really do much in AoE at all, because Haste is pretty not valuable there. And it doesn't really do much for single target either. Like it's fine. Haste is good for Aldrachi. Um, but, like, the damage amp was better. So, that kind of sucks there. Reaver's Mark was buffed. I don't know why the hell it was nerfed in the first place. It was just like randomly nerfed during beta for no reason. Uh, and then finally they increased Wounded Quarry. Now, the thing with this and just in general, people are like, oh my God, you you're seeing this, you might think the funnel is really good and it is, the funnel for Aldrachi is very good. But a few of the things did happen coming into the season that make it, again, a little bit worse. One, again, we have less stats, so less crit, which means that we're scaling off of physical crits less. Less mastery, which means we're reducing funnel less, right? Because, uh, Wounded Quarry does convert to mastery because it converts to chaos. Um, but the big thing too is that Aldrachi was target capped and also slightly nerfed.
[5:00]Um, and also the the physical bonus damage tier set was also reduced when it got put into our talent tree. Um, so in general, while the funnel is still very good, it's not as crazy turbo insane as you might remember it being. Because it doesn't scale off into, you know, into infinity up to 20 targets anymore. Um, it doesn't get as much damage. Like, Foda went from being like 30% of Havoc's damage in season 3. It's like 14% of your damage now. So, it's still very strong. Um, but it is a lot less. And that is important to remember here. I still think Havoc's very good now. I think these buffs are like gigantic turbo buffs to a spec that probably didn't need this size of buffs to be playable. Um, it was already pretty good. But now it's very good. Uh, well you're probably wondering, Sims, right? So, I ran all these last night. They are pinned in the Havoc Discord. I or Demon Hunter Discord, I pinned them there for everyone. So, this is the current top single target build. Now, I will note, the APL could probably have a bit of work. Uh, I don't think that much because Aldrachi Reaver is very simple now. You just kind of throw the thing. Uh, and gear could change. Puzzle Box is a very strong trinket, but it's not as good for Aldrachi Reaver, which is the top simming single target build now for Havoc. Um, so this could be I think like Insignia is the name off of the last boss. Oh, my cat's here. Say hello to the people. We're talking about Havoc together. So, oh, he wants down. Never mind. Goodbye, Tyga. Cat. So, Fel-Scared's still very good as well. Uh, Fel-Scared gains a lot more into AoE, which is also important. And we'll we'll touch on that in a second. So, Havoc good spot. Could gain a little bit from gear set and APL refinements. I don't think the APL needs that much work. Uh, personally, because of the fact that AR is so static and forget it. Um, but still good there in general. Um, cool. So it could maybe gain a percent. So, to come out to Devourer, this is Devourer in single target. So, this is our single target Annihilator build, 11,000. So, they're roughly the same. Presumably, like, you can gain about a percent from like APL and gear adjustments, so, they're probably about the same in single target. The thing with that is that Annihilator does like to have, um, the Eradicate build this season because of the cleave. So, that single target is going to be a little bit worse. However, on a fight with very little cleave, like Devourer brings a lot of cleave naturally with Collapsing Star, with Void Ray, stuff like that. So, you definitely can play this build on fights with minimal cleave and still do well with it, stuff like Ratios, maybe Lura, it's hard to say. The thing there is you just got to have to figure out, you know, is the funnel that AR gives you on that fight better? Hard to say, because you still get some, not funnel, but you get more single target from from adds, uh, with Annihilator as well. So, both these specs very, very close together. In fact, I would say about equal. You can basically play what you want. The big kicker comes when you add additional targets. So, this is two target. Now, when I ran these, I didn't change the builds. I, I you'd probably play Immolation Aura for Fel-Scared. Um, you'd probably play Immolation Aura, well, maybe for Aldrachi Reaver, which is this one. The thing with Aldrachi Reaver, um, Immolation Aura is that's much worse. Um, I don't know why I can't see the the build here, but it's much worse because again, like they're all that physical damage and stuff like that.
[8:10]And they're missing all the bonuses to, uh, Immolation Aura that Fel-Scared has, namely, um, turning into Meta, getting the 30% on it. Um, namely, Undying Embers, which just gives you basically 25% additional Ragefire damage, and then, uh, Immolation Aura damage. Uh, it's missing Flamebound, which is very, very good, and it's missing Violent Transformation, which gives you more Immo Auras. So, in general, if you're fighting a mult multiple targets, and you want AoE damage, Fel-Scared's going to be better for you, for Havoc. However, the funnel for Aldrachi Reaver is very good. Um, I don't think I had the sim here. There is a sim that can show you the, uh, single target AoE. I'll pull it up at the end. Uh, but here we go. Like you can kind of see 140 DPS to main target. So, pretty good single target stuff there, um, mostly not cleave damage. So, good stuff there. Now, I mean, right away, his number is bigger. Can Fel-Scared gain some? Yeah. I don't think it's gaining 30,000. I, I think that Annihilator is just so much better right now when you add additional targets. So, this is even, like, it's non cleave, this is its single target build that's doing this much damage. And this is the cleave build where we swap to Siphon Embrace and Eradicate, and it's doing 172k. Like, it's doing much more. And this is two targets. And it gains more for each target because you gain more souls. More souls means more Collapsing Stars, uh, more Meta uptime, more cool down on your reduction on your Meta. So, I think for the most part, Devourer is going to be better for a lot of things, but I think part of that as well is that Devourer is going to be harder for the average person to get damage out of because it's going to be more punishing. It is ranged, which means that it has a better time dealing with mechanics. It is, um, less susceptible to down time because it has 25 yard range. So, you know, if there's a a 15 yard AoE, Devourer could still do damage during that. Um, or, you know, other mechanics or something like that. So, it has those benefits going for it. But, Havoc's going to be easier to deal damage with. I think it's more simple. Uh, this is Inertia, obviously. So, if you have a hard time with Inertia windows, that's tough for you. Um, but Aldrachi Reaver is very close behind, very, very good there. Um, and is less punishing than Annihilator. Annihilator very strong. Now, these don't have Void Scared. Void Scared's about 1% behind on single target. This is the wrong sim. About 1% behind on single target. It's about like 109k or so. And then, in terms of cleave, it's like 13% behind. So, it is much worse. Um, because, you know, getting all the stars is very, very strong. But, in general, I think both specs are very good. As you scale up targets, I think Devourer is going to be better. It just dependent on like the funnel requirements. Like, is that funnel something that's real, and is that funnel something that's valuable for you? So, in general, interesting tuning. Things are kind of all over the place still. Like, um, just to I guess we'll do my small rant. Just, so, the reason I'm a little annoyed by this isn't because Devourer got nerfed. I think that's stupid if you think that. Obviously, Devourer's going to get nerfed. The reason I'm annoyed about this is that it is all over the place still. So, they said, they claimed this is from, like, live max level data. That's kind of bullshit because, like, there's been no content. Like, that means you're tuning from M0's? Obviously not, because, like, some of these specs aren't very good in M0's. So, what they're doing is basically tuning from Sims and tuning from the beta stuff we've already known. But a lot of this stuff has been done for weeks. So, why are we getting it now? Why not get it a week ago, two weeks ago? It's the fact that we're getting it so close to release of the season. Um, when most of us have been have guides already done. I know Shadewasaying had to scrap a guide, he had already almost finished for Havoc because everything changed. And, uh, like, I'm a little lucky Devourer guides aren't changing. It's just a flat nerf. Uh, but for some of the specs, I know Preheat had to basically redo all of Fire's stuff. Um, I'm sure there's other examples of it as well. I don't know, maybe Survival got big changes too. Maybe they had to change stuff. So, in general, it's a little annoying when we get this stuff this late up to a deadline. I would prefer if they did it earlier, because they could have done it earlier, because there wasn't really any new data to gain. Sorry, I kicked my table. And the other thing is that this is going to have to happen again. Specs are still pretty crazy. Bear Druid is still doing, like, almost a DPS worth of damage. Arms Warrior is still doing tank damage. Um, a bunch of specs weren't touched that are doing really low numbers. I think Assassination Rogue is still doing, like, in the 80k. I I saw Whisper post a video where he was just eating a sandwich. Shout out. Um, and like, we have specs still. Like, Feral's up at like 120, something like that in terms of Sim. Obviously, Sims aren't everything, but they're they're a good idea of how things will work out. So, like, you know, you got some specs doing crazy, crazy, nuts, so damage still, and you got some specs that are like doing 50k less than that, 40k less than that. You have a tank doing a ton of damage still. So, in terms of tuning targets and tuning timing, that's where I'm annoyed. Things are still all over the place. Super late in turn into the season. Like they, like, I don't know, just do better. Anyways, that's the video. Um, I will have a probably Havoc on Monday, and then Devour on Tuesday, and then we'll have gearing guides, um, in terms of both specs. Very busy week for me. I have so many other deadlines I do. I have to go mark like, I don't know, like 30 assignments and then like plan a lab exam. Anyways, hope you guys enjoyed. Let me know in your thoughts on the nerfs. I still think Devourer is going to be the the play for the majority of boss fights and for Mythic Plus, but Havoc is very good. I think it probably will see play on a few boss fights. Like, assuming things break out the right way. And if you like Havoc, it's very playable. It is like the same damage in Sims. It's so good compared to Devourer. Both are very good. Devourer little higher end on the top end, Havoc little higher floor probably. So, like and subscribe. See you guys next time. Peace. A big thank you to everyone who watches my videos, but a special shout-out to my channel members who help support me. If you want to become a channel member, get your name shouted out at the end of the video, as well as a special role of my Discord. You can become one down below. 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