[0:01]Real tors, they're going to go on and on about the area. They're going to tell you about the school district if there's nearby parks that you can walk to. They're going to tell you all of this, but they're not going to tell you about the Karen situation. And in this little suburban town just off the side from Hong Kong, the neighbors they, they prided themselves in being Karens. Their neighborhood was right next to this very popular hiking trail, and people would just park their cars illegally throughout the neighborhood. And these residents, they're like, no, this is not acceptable. So, for a very specific reason, these neighbors were extra alert when it came to outsiders. They were extra vigilant. They would gather for their daily neighborhood speed walks, they would gossip, they would tilt their head towards an empty house. That one over there, it finally got rented. I think they're moving in. Oh yeah, I saw the guy, he's a, he's something. He parks his van in front and he just goes inside for hours, but then he leaves at night, so I guess he didn't move in. I thought maybe he was renovating the place, but I never see him moving anything in, I don't see him moving anything out, no equipment, no furniture. Oh my God, you noticed that? I too. One time, I tried to peek in, and the entire place is still empty. Like, no mattress, no sofa, no dining table, nothing. There's no renovations being done. I just thought it was weird. You know what's even weirder, though? These ladies, they tried saying hi to the guy that just moved in. They would walk past and they said, I waved to him. Yeah, I was, I was with my family and I waved, and it's so obvious he's avoiding me. It's like he won't even make eye contact with me. He just has this expression on his face that feels cold. There's like nothing behind his eyes. He just keeps smoking his cigarettes. The neighbors shared nervous glances with each other. And as the days went on, the new neighbor started to act even stranger. They started covering all of their windows with these black clothes. As if they didn't want anybody to look inside. They cover the front door with a black cloth. So, if they were to open the front door and walk out, you wouldn't even be able to glimpse in. So there's, open the door, you just see a black curtain. Exactly. It's like they're hiding something. I mean, that's not even convenient. I'm sure each neighbor had their own little conspiracy. Well, maybe he's running a brothel. Maybe it's his for his mistress? Maybe he's like hiding a secret family here. Well, I heard illegal gambling rings are pretty big these days. It could be that. I don't think that any of them would have guessed that in just two short weeks, the police would swarm the house, finding the dismembered remains of a young mother, daughter, wealthy socialite, murdered, dismembered, and cooked into soup from inside that very home.
[3:10]Welcome to this week's mini so of Rotten Mango. As you guys know, we're doing mini so visuals now. So, if you guys are watching the video on YouTube or Spotify, hello. I actually had a completely different video on a separate case for today's upload, but I was reading the comment, I was reading emails, DMs, and I was getting so many requests to cover the dismemberment case of Abby Choy. I looked online, I didn't see many people covering it in like one compiled video. Maybe it's because it's so new. There's constant new developments. I, I've tried to gather all the credible information that I could find. This case is interesting because now I think, like a lot of ongoing cases, it's starting to head into like this weird conspiracy theory territory. So I tried to gather all the credible information that's been released, combine it in this one video, but like I said, there's going to be so many more new developments and if need be, we can always do an update. This is just what we know so far. And if you guys are watching the video, I have a white patch on my hand. It is, um, it's like a eucalyptus patch for my allergies, so you don't hear me heavy breathing into the mic. So, with that being said, show notes are listed at RottenMangoPodcast.com and let's get into it. I know it might not seem like it if you've been following this case, but it starts with Cal Kuang. I know, you're like, who? I was hearing the names Abby and Alex, who's Cal? Cal Kuang was finding it very hard to find a job. Every time he found a job, he would mess it up, or he would get fired. I mean, nothing seemed to stick. He wished that he could have his old job back. It was hard, but at least it was, it was fun. It was his favorite job that he's ever had in his entire life looking back. Cal Kuang used to be a sheriff for a police department. It gave him like a sense of duty, a sense of fulfillment, an immense sense of power, if I'm being honest. And in 2005, all of that came crumbling down, just disintegrated. A girl walked in to the police station to report a crime. She was the victim. Sheriff Kuang tried to comfort her, walk through the process of, this is what's going to happen next. We're going to look for the perpetrators. We need your statements. This is what we need. He was just a really caring police officer. The girl found herself opening up to him in ways that she didn't think that she would. I mean, she had a completely different vision of what was going to happen. She thought none of the police were going to care. She thought the sheriff was going to be like, get out of here. We don't care about this nonsense. They wouldn't take her seriously. That's what she thought. I mean, can you blame her? But Sheriff Kuang was, he was different. He listened, he was so patient with her. He, he made sure that she was comfortable and that she trusted him. And after such a horrific crime, after being victimized, she, she starts feeling hope, like, okay, maybe there are good people out there. So one day she gets a knock on her door, two in the morning. She wasn't that startled to see Sheriff Kuang outside. Police work all hours of the day, okay? They don't just work nine to five. Maybe there was a breakthrough in her case. Maybe there was urgent news he needed to tell her about. She lets him in at two in the morning, and Sheriff Kuang, the man who pledged to protect, his duty was to serve, the one that she had vulnerably trusted and opened up to about what had happened to her, what she had to endure, how she was traumatized, he allegedly raped her. This part of the research I didn't even, because just think about the sheriff taking advantage, allegedly, but taking advantage of a victim's trust and then again to revictimize them in the safety of their own home after you gain their trust as a police officer in uniform? Was he charged? He wasn't charged. So that's why I have to say allegedly, but it, a lot of sources can confirm it, but he wasn't charged, he was let go as a sheriff. Now, the thing that it gets confusing is allegedly, he was let go because of a variety of different allegations that were on his record. So, this might not even be the first alleged rape. This might be the second, there might be other crimes that he had gotten involved with, allegedly. Oh my God, this is like 10 times worse than a criminal. I always think it's worse when the criminals are in a position of authority and you start to trust them, and they're the people that you're supposed to go to, and they abuse that power. It's terrifying. So, in 2005, Sheriff Kuang was not arrested, not charged, but he was let go from his job as a sheriff. Now, it seems like money is hard to come by. No job is paying him as well. No job seems to be worth his time. They were all too much work, not enough power, not enough respect, right? It was getting rough. So, Cal, he was pretty happy when his son Alex announced that he was going to be marrying Abby Choy. Now, most parents would not have been happy because his son Alex is 18 years old, and his future bride is also 18 years old. That's pretty young, you know? But Abby Choy was different. She was caring, compassionate, intelligent. But more importantly, to Cal Kuang, first, she didn't know that he was a rapist, and secondly, her parents were multi, multi-millionaires. Like, this was his ticket to sit at the table of Hong Kong's elite, and nothing was going to stop him. You're like, okay, who is Abby? I feel like I'm always trying to find ways to tell you about someone without being like, she was nice, guys. Trust me. She was very nice. So, in Abby Choy's case, I can tell you about this cat. You're like, what does this cat have to do with it? This cat originally didn't even have a name. It didn't have a home. It didn't even have a cat bed, it didn't even have a bowl to eat food out of. It was a stray cat that had been trying to cross this busy road and it was hit by a car, just slammed. The cat was laying on the side of the road, couldn't get up, both the front legs of this cat were broken. The cat couldn't move, it, the cat couldn't even meow for help. I mean, just once where from another car and that cat would have just been squashed. But somehow the stars aligned and a passerby spotted the cat. Like they're like, okay, I got to rush this cat to some sort of hospital. They rush it to a local nonprofit organization for stray animals. And now, a lot of nonprofit organizations might not have been able to help this cat. This cat was severely injured. The cost to help her recover, when it wasn't even clear that she would survive the surgery, that she would even be able to recover. I mean, nonprofits don't have unlimited funds, and it seems like there's unlimited animals that they need to help. But this nonprofit was funded by Hong Kong wealthy socialite Abby Choy, and she was the type that was like, I don't give up on any cats. So, this tiny little black cat was named Chicha. Chicha, which means car in Mandarin, and after her surgery on both front legs and getting pain meds and being fed, Chicha is on the road to recovery. Literally on the road to recovery. And that is the type of person that Abby Choy was. And I think that's like the best way to describe her, because if I were to start with her background, a lot of it is so privileged. Her parents are wealthy. They're really, really rich, and the lifestyle that she lives is definitely comparable to like a nepo baby, it feels like. But it's hard to hate her. It's hard to find fault in her. She just seems so damn nice and so genuine. So, a little bit about her. Abby Choy was born to a wealthy Hong Kong businessman. Her dad was incredibly successful or is incredibly successful. He took care of his wife and three daughters really, really well. Like, think top socialite family in Hong Kong. Go into charity galas, being invited to front row seats at Dior shows, Chanel shows. I mean, even Abby's Instagram is filled with her attending like these big, big fashion shows, being on the cover of these fashion magazines. And as I was scrolling through her Instagram, and she posts frequently, the one interesting word that kept popping up in my head while I was scrolling was, she kind of reminds me of a fairy. Like, I don't know if it's the dresses that she wears, or maybe the way that she looks. Maybe it's the way that she carries herself. The more that I look into her and the more that I look at her Instagram, she just looks like a fairy. Like, she seems so elegant and full of grace. People who worked with Abby back that up. They said, oh yeah, no, she shines so bright. Like, there's like a glimmer in this girl. She always left this really good impression on us. We felt lucky to cross paths with her. Despite being a socialite, despite being born with like this silver spoon in her mouth, Abby Choy was really kind. There's some videos of her that she posted herself, and she just has this soft, gentle voice. Chris, Abby's husband, spoke out to say, I'm very happy and thankful that Abby came into my life. She gave me these two wonderful children. She was always supporting me and loving me. Abby was a very kind person. She just wanted to help others. Those who had the chance to be in her life were all very lucky. And with that, Chris and Abby's family all arrived to the murder house. They held this massive ceremony for her. And correct me if I'm wrong, but I heard that this is kind of common when your loved one dies in a separate city. And if they're dismembered, there's processes that you have to take to bring, connect their spirit again to make them whole. To make them home, yeah, or just call them back. Yeah, call them back home because it's said that if these, um, spirits get lost, they can't find their way home, and it's this horrible fate in the afterlife to just wander around searching for your family. Usually it's Tou Qi, like the seventh day, usually the spirit will come home to visit your home for the last time. They just want to make sure that she can rest at home. Um, Abby's mom was really heartbroken. There's videos, she's just crying through the entire ceremony. She's literally can't even stand up by herself. She's leaning on Abby's husband. Like, it feels, like, my heart aches for this woman. I feel like she's going to break down at any moment. Like, and she just kept saying, my precious daughter, I'll never be able to see you again. And she would say that her death was so unfair, and she said, stupid, stupid girl, you used all your kindness on the wrong person.
[15:02]Your kindness was all gobbled up by these undeserving people. These shitty people ate up your heart, you stupid girl. My precious daughter, I will never get to see you again. My daughter. A lot of people commented, like, what will her children be told when they grow up and ask what happened to their mother? There's just a lot of anger and outrage, and that's, that's where the case is right now with the family grieving. And speaking of the family grieving, I think that there were a lot of appropriate responses to this case, in my opinion. You know, this ceremony, though, it brought up a lot of conspiracy theories that I don't even understand. Like, people were judging certain family members of Abby's for wearing certain things. And I saw the videos, I saw what they were wearing. I didn't, I don't even know what they're talking about. Like someone was wearing black tights and they were like, this is crazy attire. Some of the allegations and conspiracies that are coming out of this case, it's insane. Um, I understand the anger that people feel, like the pain, the confusion that people feel about this case. I get it. But there were some strange conversations that were started online because of this case. The first being that a lot of these, like online discourse forums, they started talking about men. And they started bringing up the conversation of Chacha. Chacha, so that became, yeah, marrying down. That became a huge topic of conversation online. And it just seemed like people were almost leaning towards that as, like, proof. It got very weird. Um, people, it feels very taboo in the US to read it, but people were saying, like, the result of marrying beneath you is that you lose yourself and your wealth. Some people were saying things that were wilder. They were like, love yourself and stay away from poor men. Look, I get the anger, but I would just say this is a bit of a strange response. Some speculated that she supported this evil family financially, and it's speculated that as she got more successful, when she married Chris, the family got jealous. Like, they could not bear to see her live a good life. People speculated that the Kuang family, I mean, they sound egotistical, don't they? They sound evil. They speculated that these types of personalities would harbor deep hatred for even the hand that feeds them. They were probably so upset and resented Abby for the fact that their entire lives relied on Abby.
[18:05]Now, another commenter wrote, um, love is between two people, but marriage is between two families. It's best to look into your in-laws.
[18:22]So, a lot of people kind of took this case as a way of sharing these marriage sentiments, which I thought was, I don't know. Like, I guess is that how people are coping with this? I don't know. It's just, it's weird. And then there are seedier parts, which I'm sure if you guys have been following this case, I'm not even going to mention, but they were alleging that family members of Abby's were sleeping with family members of the Kuang family. Like, just, I don't even know what to say. Just, please stop.
[19:08]So, after the arrest, Abby and Alex's two kids were sent to live with Chris's mother, so their step-grandma. And she's taking care of all four kids while the investigation continues, so that Chris can grieve and cooperate with the police. It seems like the children are very safe with her. They're in good hands. Which side note, she has spoken up about the situation. Chris's mom, so her current mother-in-law. Her ex-mother-in-law is in jail, and her current mother-in-law, she spoke up and Chris's mom said, after Abby's marriage to my son Chris, she was an amazing wife. A great daughter-in-law. She really respected us as in-laws. Every Mother's Day, every birthday, she would come eat with me, she would get me gifts. She treated all her employees, like her drivers, her workers, her assistants. She just treated them so well. Chris's dad, so her current father-in-law, also spoke out to say, she was so kind. We would all travel together, and everyone that knew her, they loved her. Even her employees, they respected how good of a mother she was. And even though Abby and I are not blood related, she will always be our precious daughter. And so, that's all we have right now on the ongoing current case of Abby Choy. Again, I guess we'll just have to wait and see how this unfolds. I just hope that the Kuang family is very scared. Because when you bite the hand that feeds you, you're ultimately going to be the one that starves to death. And Abby Choy, it doesn't seem like she will ever be forgotten, but they will be. So, that's it for today's mini so. What are your thoughts? And please stay safe, and I'll see you guys on Wednesday for the main episode. Bye.
