[0:08]I'll be like working, but wanting to skate the whole time while I'm working. So it's good to come out here and just catch a couple grinds. And get right back in that fucking chair and work all day. Come out here, get scared real quick and go back inside and sit on your chair. And that's it. Now you can go back to work. Finish those fucking beggar boards.
[0:50]This thing right here, this thing, this big ass cabinet my mom and dad were like, "we're going to get rid of it." And I was like, "why are you guys getting rid of this thing?" And they were like, "oh, it's just don't like it anymore." And I was like, "why am I like attached to this thing? Why am I psyched on this?" And then I was like going through the drawers and shit. And then like, I was like, "dude, this is where I used to hide my G.I. Joes and shit." But yeah, I was like, "oh, that's why I'm all psyched on this because when I was a little kid I used to hide like my toys in here." But it's a bar. All the shit, this thing opens up. You have bottles in there and shit. But in here I have my name written in like some graffiti style. So you could say I've been writing my name inside of bars for since I was like six years old or some shit. This is the office. This is where all my shit happens. This is where I spend all my time.
[1:54]I mean everything that I've been drawing since I was a little kid, I'm still drawing now. My little brother he loved drawing shit out of like books and like just copying it, you know what I mean? And we're always just like competition. I'd be like, "stop copying shit. Draw your own stuff." You know what I mean? So I was always just drawing my own stuff. I mean, I'm sure there was some like copying like here and there but mainly it was just like all my own, you know, creations and because that that would be like a a one-up with my brothers. I'll be like, "man, you got that out of a book, this came out of my brain." I was just telling my friend the other day that Beavis and Butt-Head was the first kind of the first cartoon that I found out who the maker was, the creator. You know, like everything else was just like like Ren and Stimpy and like ThunderCats and all those, I've never thought like who drew these. I can never, it was just like a, they were just creatures in the TV that I was psyched on, you know what I mean? I didn't know that people made it, there's like a a person drawing it or anything. It was just like these things that were there. But yeah, Beavis and Butt-Head was the first thing I remember who created it. It brought up the question like, "who made this?" And I was like, "oh, that dude, Mike Judge." Sick. I didn't give a fuck about high school at all. Like, I passed by the skin of my teeth. Towards the end of high school, I found out about art school and I was like, "what?" I was like, "you get to you get graded for drawing in class? Like I do that all the time anyways and I get nothing but trouble." My brother's girlfriend at the time was like, "yeah, uh, you should make a portfolio and send it to schools or some shit." And I was like, "all right." So I fucking did all this shit like, had to do self portraits, landscapes and all this this requirements for for art school. I got accepted to the New York one first. And I was like, "sick, I'm going to New York." Brooklyn Banks, fucking Bubble Banks, like Union Square, like all I knew about New York was just skating. I like suffered through the first year drawing like fucking naked model chicks and shit and like, "dude, this shit is whack." I'm like, "this is so whack." And I'm telling all the people there, I'm like, "this sucks." I would like stay after class and I'd be like, just painting my own my own stuff and just working on my own my own shit. And then like all these kids, these fucking rich kids would come by and they'd just be like, "hey, what class is that for? What class is that for?" I'm like, "no class, dude, it's my shit. I'm just doing it." They're like, "why? Why are you doing that? It's not required or some shit." I'm like, "dude, you guys are here for the wrong wrong reason." Like, they're just there for like credits and just to be like, "I went to college and fucking blah, blah, blah" or some shit. This whole time, I'm like skating all New York City and riding on everything. So by the time the second year came around, there was already like a buzz or some shit and like magazines were getting a hold of me. Uh, interviews and art shows and all this shit eventually school was getting in the way of like me doing shit and then I was like I was like, thought about, I was like, "dude, I'm going to school to do what I'm doing now." "Why do I even need to go there anymore?" I'm like, "fuck this." I was like, "I'm out." And then that was it. I dropped out, I dropped out of art school because it sucked really bad. The only thing that it was good for was uh, stealing art supplies from people that didn't didn't uh, use them correctly. And I still have some of those art supplies to this day.
[5:39]Most of my supplies that I have to this day, we're stolen from an art supply store in New York at Pratt University, another art school. I took a bunch of that orange, like this orange ink that I have, this orange like uh, Sumi ink and that became like my color. And that wasn't even like, "hey, I'm gonna my color's orange. Orange and black. I'm the Halloween guy." It's like I had so much of that orange that that's all I used and that became like my color. The the certain kind of spray paint uh, that I use is whatever you could get at that time, you know. We might be on tour and only be by some like random like hardware store that has like shitty paint and then that's what you're using. You know when people do those master classes? They're like, "dude, you're going to use this guitar, these strings and then I'm going to teach you by the end of this, you're going to learn how to do every solo from Guns N' Roses album appetite for Destruction." It's like, "dude, stop giving shit away, man. Stop telling everyone your secrets and and what you use." I I want to like motivate people to go out there and and get your own shit and figure out what you like. I found out what I like. Nobody told me what to use. I found out what I liked on my own and I found out what I liked because I was like, "okay, that dude is sick. Let me look in the background of this photo and see any of these art supplies if I recognize any of them." "Oh, that thing. Oh, I'm going to try it." "Oh, that shit sucks" or "oh, that shit's really good. I can see why he uses it." The the term "struggling artist" is a real thing and it's like I just started making money like probably like three years ago and I'm not even making that much money. You got to mainly do this shit because you like it. And it's like with skating too. It's like, "your kickflip's not that sick, dude." You know, "your lip slides whatever but you're still fucking going to do it because you're hyped on it." You know what I mean? Like, "you pushing Mongo, man." "You pushing Mongo, that's the wrong way to push." So what? "I'm having fun. I'm doing it." "Hey, you're drawing this wrong. You're drawing that wrong. Hey, people aren't going to like that drawing." Like kitty cats and shit? "No one's going to like that." But it's like, "dude, if you're psyched on it, then keep doing it." And that's all that fucking matters. It's like, if you're going to go into it thinking that you're going to make millions of dollars and and whatever, it's not going to happen. You you the first thing you got to do is go into it thinking that you're going to you're just happy to do it and then everything else will follow.
[8:10]And if it doesn't, you're still happy that you're doing it, you know what I mean? So what I'm working on right now is a top secret project that is a dream project. And I've been wanting to do this my whole life. I've learned that if I laugh at something, turns out there's a lot of fucked up people that will laugh at the same thing you're laughing at. And yeah, it's just a thing that is like been burning my brain forever that, you know, I've been wanting to do and I fucking manned up and now I'm fucking doing it because I want to and because I can. And if you care about something so much, you're going to do that shit regardless if there's a fucking pandemic going on or not. When the when the world is at its lowest, nasty neck reigns supreme to the top.
