[0:36]When she was in art school in Indiana, studied printmaking. And then when she went to UCLA, they had printmaking there as well. So it's something she started working with very early. And then she also started making objects that were familiar to her. So she made a couple pencils out of wood. And then painted them. And it takes forever to orchestrate it so that everything stays in its place and everything has a relationship to everything else, which has a relationship to the painting as an object itself.
[1:33]So I kinda said, you know, no explaining with the art, no entertaining. No angst, no style, no story, no see how well I can paint, no design, no picturesque, no cute technique, no spectacular size, no irony, no false modesty or raging ego. So what does that mean?
