[0:05]Please welcome Iggy Pop!
[0:32]Fun! Hey baby, we like your lips. Fun! Hey baby, we like your pants. Oh-oh-oh, for fun time. Fun! Hey, if you're lucky tonight.
[0:52]Fun! I'm gonna get stoned and run around. Oh-oh-oh, for fun time. Fun! Last night I was down in the railway. Fun! Talking to Dracula and his crew.
[1:12]Oh-oh-oh, for fun time. I don't mean no heavy trips. Fun! I just do what I want to do. Oh-oh-oh, for fun time.
[1:51]Fun! Hey baby, baby, we like your lips. Fun! Hey baby, baby, we love your pants. Oh-oh-oh, for fun time.
[2:23]Fun! Hey baby, baby, we like your lips. Fun! Hey baby, baby, we love your pants. Oh-oh-oh, for fun time. Fun! Everybody, we wanna. Fun! We want some. We want some. Oh-oh-oh, for fun time.
[3:32]Well, they're performing and Iggy Pop and David Bowie. You must be exhausted. I'm a little bit keyed up now. I know. That's kinda hard to come down from. It's difficult to to break back out of. Of course.
[3:44]I'm gonna call you Jimmy by your name. I appreciate it. Jimmy, when you do two and three shows a night, how do you how do you come out of it?
[3:54]Usually when we work I do that for about an hour and a half. Good. Haven't You've known each other for years, haven't you?
[4:02]Yeah, for six years. Where did you meet? What inspired this. Where did you meet? In a bar in New York. You sure?
[4:12]You sure? We were both unrecognized at the time, so we had a lot to, you know, in common. But you knew that you, but you were both interested in music. No, not music really. We never call it. You call it music. This isn't music. This is not do the hungry, hungry. What is this? Explain to me what it is.
[4:36]Well, it's not uh my understanding of punk rock is uh something that's happened in England, I think, really over the last couple of years. But uh what Jimmy was doing. Uh I'd never seen Jimmy, really. But I'd heard some of his albums and uh it sounded like uh I don't know, nihilistic rock.
[4:59]It was nihilism. But that's true. It fascinates me. I love nihilism. Well, well. Just love philosopher talk. No, but that that that's interesting because it's a little remote from reality at times. No, it isn't. Not at all. No. No. But now in your collaboration, what do you consider your what type of music do you do then, David? Myself? Uhm, well, oh, I don't ask Jimmy. Uh, I'll tell you what he does. He's a bit of there. Yes, it is. A bit more airy. Yeah. My my my music is just basically, I look for things to tear apart, you know. Oh, that's good to whip and, you know, it's very easy. You don't even think about it before you do it, it just happens, doesn't it when you're No, not what Jimmy did when we were in the Do you mind me talking? No. Um, you sure? Yeah. Okay. Uh, in the studio with Jimmy would uh make up the lyrics on the spot and we would keep everything that he did and uh occasionally change a line after we recorded. But Jimmy, I've never seen anybody be able to make up lyrics so fast, just out of his head to a track. And it's more like a um I guess uh he'll hate me, but it's it's more like a the beatnik era of thing with you see. Well, it's a retreat, I mean, it's it's it's a very spontaneous kind of lyric. It's it's not like a written thing at all, Jimmy. But Where's mine's? I spend months writing one word. Then I have to look it up and see how to spell it. Which is what most of us have to do. No, but David, what I mean is when you, you recorded Iggy first, or Jimmy first? No. No, no. Iggy already had two albums out in his own that he'd done himself. I see. Um, and then the the um, general favor when when against Jim because of what he was doing. At the time seemed but you should ask me. You should ask me what other things you were doing at the time, which were the things that I had heard about and Well, I was doing what I was really, I was doing songs like I wanna be your dog and no fun and uh, search and destroy and raw power, which is since had a child's toy named after it and and uh But you were doing things to yourself physically that were Yeah, and to other people too. Why?
[7:29]Because I was bored and angry and uh, when I couldn't, you know, when when things would get so when something that demanded action every day would keep pestering my mind and I couldn't do anything about it. Finally, sometimes I would give up and just resort to simple violence. On yourself, though, mostly? Usually on myself because I hated to do it take it out on other people. I thought that was wrong. That's considerate. Yeah. I thought I was No, honestly, I thought I was being more considerate. So often I would I would do to myself what I wanted to do to someone else. I mean, like, for instance, you you poured hot wax on yourself once? Yes, but that you see that didn't hurt. It didn't hurt No, it doesn't. And I didn't know at the time that it wouldn't hurt, though. But you cut yourself with a bottle? Yeah. Well, that was because I'd I'd done something really foolish the night before and I was ashamed. You were kidding me. I had left a I had left this 13-year-old girl at a at a stranded at an airport on the East Coast and she was from the West Coast. And I thought that wasn't right to do to her. No, that's not right. So right. So I got up on stage and I I thought, well, what is a fool? What is a a horrible person like you doing up on this stage? This is all wrong. And I felt so bad that I thought, to the heck with it and I grabbed a glass and Oh, Jimmy. But that was well, I've I've since I've had treatment for this sort of thing in my sense.
[8:50]Yeah, it helped a lot, you know. Jimmy, it's better to be able to laugh about it now. Yeah, that's really a hard way to learn. See, I knew, I'll tell you. But Rosie was saying, we were saying, you know, you burn yourself with a hot rollers when you're on the, you burn your hair with. That's about the extent of it.
[9:04]But to do what you did to punish yourself. It's always no, listen, it's it's sounds funny, but um yeah, it is funny. It's really funny. Now David, no, I was gonna say something very heavy and and meaningful, but I can't. I know. You dare. If you saw Iggy perform, what was your reaction?
[9:21]I never saw Iggy perform. I just heard I just heard the albums. And uh then I must admit somebody played me a video tape of uh uh a performance that he did with um um his original band, the Stooges. And uh I didn't like it very much because I because then I saw the violence. And it's not what I heard from the lyrics. Because your your music, when when you, I mean, you have a lovely, you say sound, where I'm a cyborg.
[9:48]My my stuff is very different. Mine comes from sort of up to from there. And Jimmy's comes from about here down to I don't know, I wonder what he means by that. I don't know, I'll ask you later. Okay, kid. I'll tell you. No, what I what I wanted to know what was the audience's reaction when you did those things to them or to yourself?
[10:14]It would depend, you see. I did a lot of very good shows then, too. It's like anybody that's reaching sort of like that. Sometimes you'll do incredibly good things and not know it. So sometimes the audience would literally just go nuts. And they'd usually get very demonstrative. Sometimes they would all pass out. They did? Yeah, they would took a lot of Not much response when they do that. Yeah. And sometimes they would sometimes they would just uh if it was a room this size, uh they would all press themselves in groups against the wall as far away as they could get from me and just they'd watch in horror but they wouldn't be able to leave either. They would have to they would be sort of fascinated. You can talk about it now and you've had treatment. I can talk about it if it's required. It's not my preferred subject. Oh, I don't want to make you uncomfortable. I just but do you feel that in your music you had a chance coupled with the violence to contribute something? I think I've contributed something else. I think, yeah. Yeah. In what you in the statement in your music or in what you were saying about yourself and and the violence you perpetrated on us. I don't know about that. I but must have been something good that I've done. Oh, I'm sure of that. I don't mean I think I think perhaps just that there are a lot of people who have enjoyed what I've done for a long time. So that's good enough. Whatever it is. Do you feel you've influenced anybody in the I think I helped wipe out the 60s. That's I know. Yeah. But no, I was going to say something very heavy and meaningful, but I can't. It sounds terribly American, dear. For me. But no, what interesting thing because I noticed that a lot of the rock artists and the country artists will uh play as side men on a temporary date or basis on a recording session. With other performers. But I have never seen them do it to this extent, but you are now helping to produce Jimmy's albums. Yeah. Uh but what happens with your career? Oh, that's fine. I'm I'm I'm. It'll it'll move along. Exactly the same. I am very rich, you know. I can afford it. Yeah. And I guess I guess if you're willing to, you know, just wait it out, and I I I don't see the necessity of doing a tour of my own until I want to do one. Yeah. Not for the bucks, I much prefer to do one because I want to do a tour. Then I prefer to do something that that really excites me and playing piano behind Iggy Pop for me is very exciting. Well, see now that's wonderful. And and that's the kind of thing that usually managers and agents and people like that they say, grab it while you can because the public's taste is whimsical and it changes. But for you to say that you can sit there. No, public taste isn't changed. There there is only there is just is uh there's a particular hardcore point in the public that that there's a a valve, a an emotional point that that can be touched in two places. It's either on a spiritual level or a gut level. And that that will never change ever. No, I I agree with you. But the audience to whom you appeal occasionally will will be fickle or they will move to another group. Oh. But if you touch them emotionally in one way or the other, spiritually or I think Jimmy and I believe in our audiences a lot. I don't I don't think we're concerned very much too much. Oh, that's great. Very much. Be right back.
[16:09]You just You've got David on the floor. You're kidding me. Watch your teeth, buddy. Yeah. You're kidding me. You're you're kidding me. I mean, you were Now wait, I gotta get this straight. You your teeth were falling out because you were getting too violent on stage. Yes. You were hitting the microphone, were you? Yeah, mostly from from the microphone. And you couldn't very well do without it.
[16:29]Sometimes the floor and the drums. The other musicians, you know. With your teeth? There's a school of thought that thinks I can hit anybody with my teeth, but they're not Right. Introduce the members of the Yeah. I'd love to. This is uh, well, this is Tony Sales. Tony Sales? And his brother Hunt. Hunt Sales. Or his brother Tony, whatever. And they're they're bad as uh is one of my favorite uh artists, uh Soupy Sales, the comedian. You're Now you're putting me on. No, I'm not. These are Soupy's boys. That's I know, Dan. That's I can't know, Dan. Listen, I know him anyway. He's not from Scotland. No, he's not. Well, listen, you're going to you're going to do another number now. We'd like to if we could. Great. What are you going to do? Uh it's called Sister Midnight. Sister Midnight? Is from my new album The Idiot. Yes. And I think you I got it. Okay. Ready. Iggy Pop!
[18:06]I'm calling Sister Midnight. You've got me reaching for the moon. I'm calling Sister Midnight. You've got me playing the fool. I'm calling Sister Midnight.
[18:37]Can you hear me at all? Can you hear me at all? I'm calling Sister Midnight. Well, I'm an idiot for you. I'm calling Sister Midnight. Can you hear me at all? Can you hear me at all?
[19:30]I'm calling Sister Midnight. You know, I had a dream last night. Were trailers were in my bed. So I made love to them. My father, he going falling. He don't want me with a six gun. I'm calling Sister Midnight. Well, what can I do?
[20:28]I'm calling Sister Midnight. You got me walking in red. I'm calling Sister Midnight. Okay. I'm playing with a cat in my hand. He where are you Sister Midnight? Can you hear me at all? Can you hear me at all? When you hear me all, all. Well. all. all. I'm calling Sister Midnight. Okay. I'm playing the cat in my hand. You get my walking in red. I'm calling Sister Midnight.
