[0:00]The meeting was very positive because we discussed beyond whatever had happened in Penang for the past two days. And that beyond that we discussed have actually came to our understanding together that the most important thing that I want to to to to say here is that um These people or the transgender especially they cannot be discriminated in their workplace. That is very important. With the discussion with Nisha, we have had a lot of information about how out there the public is still discriminating this group. And that discrimination does not help them to come back to the society, integrate in the society and the most important thing is to be independent, yeah, in their livelihood. That is the most important thing. If the public continue to label them, if the public continue to judge them and worse discriminate them, that's why you have that very scary statistic. 80% of the transgender are involved in the sex work. So, we are not helping. I urge the public. Please help in order not to discriminate them. Give them the chance. They are ordinary citizen and they want to contribute and they want to be just like anyone of us here to go to schools, to go to have access, equal access to health, education and even the worship, ibadah. You know? Public places. And I'm talking about transgender. I'm not talking about LGB. I'm talking about the the transgender punya group. What about the LGB group? I don't know because I haven't met them. And um but for me it is very clear yang transgender nilah yang paling menjadi mangsa. Sebab mereka tak dapat lari daripada appearance mereka. So, they are seen to be very vulnerable to the labeling and judgment. Yeah.
[2:22]Of course I have to also work out with other departments, agencies like keusahawanan for example, wanita dan keluarga for example. And for health, I can speak to the minister about whatever they report yang kata dia orang tak nak check transgender sebab ada yang kata check pakai apa? Pakai pen aje, tak nak sentuh contohnya. That is wrong for a doctor punya etika. Doctor etika ni siapa-siapa datang dia kena, dia kena check. So from now on, kalau ada report-report yang begitu, definitely we will take a very stern action.



