How To Lose As Thor

[0:00]How do I climb as Thor? How do I push out of celestial? How do I push out of eternity? How do I get out of top 100? How do I get out of silver? What are the best tips for Thor? Give me some advice, man. I've answered all the questions on my Twitch chat, I've answered all the questions in my comments, and I've answered all the questions in my guides, but have I ever answered the question, how to lose as Thor? Everyone knows the greatest ways to always come back, but does everyone know the easiest ways to fail?

[0:32]Okay, so right off the bat, this gameplay wise, just a straight gameplay thing, overextending. I feel like every single time that I'm having a bad day, having a really, really bad stream, either I'm not landing all my abilities correctly, I'm overextending, or I'm in the wrong place at the wrong time. Just I'm just always in the wrong place. So with overextending, I feel like it's always just walking forward, walking too far forward, after every single kill then I'm seeing an ability from Magneto come out, he uses his bubble and I'm like, okay, Mag, okay, Mag. Let me try you then, let me try you then. I try to push him forward but it's like he used a 12 second cooldown ability. I think it's like eight seconds. Okay, his E is 15 seconds and for himself it's 10. Yeah, he pops a a shield for himself for 10 second cooldown. Hey, your push is two seconds, big bro. You you can just jump backwards, go back to your team and then hey, a a one more chance to go for Mag now. Then the next way to just always lose, it's got to just be whenever you're missing all of your abilities, bro. I I swear, it's not even about if you're just feeding your ass off the entire time or if if maybe you're not getting kills. It's straight up, if you're just missing your hammer throw, miss the lightning roll on somebody, you go for a kill, you should have popped the awakening afterwards. It's like, if you miss that initial hammer throw, then you can't go into your awakening and then if you miss that lightning roll, somehow, like, bro, I swear, there's times where I'll just freak the hell out in team fights that I'll be like, okay, I missed a hammer throw. Let me go for a quick lightning realm then. And you have to recover that bad fumble. So now you're wasting another cool down, putting that one on cool down. Your hammer throw is back on cool down and it you didn't even miss the ability, so you're not even in the light, or in awakening. It's actually PTSD flashbacks sometimes thinking about those moments because it it's it's like just I'm just having an off day. I just play through it, but it just is what it is, bro. And and then just being out of position. I feel like if you're not thinking about where you're going to be at the next moment in time, or you're not just always thinking about where you have to be, do they have a Spider-Man, a Daredevil, a Venom, are they diving? Is it a Hella, Namor to find the high grounds? Where do you have to be at all times so the enemy can't get to your backland? So they can't like just win the fight automatically. I I feel like if you've ever seen me on stream, just throwing like awaken shots down main, whenever the game just starts, that's how you know I'm in full auto pilot mode. I'm just not I've caught myself though, so like, like I said, this is how to lose as Thor. I I've pondered this. I've pondered this. I've caught myself though, so if I ever do this again, I know what I'm not going to do anymore. You know, if I ever catch myself doing this, I know what I can do. Hey, hey, you guys too. If you see me on stream, if I'm just throwing awakening shots down main, and I have no good answer for it afterwards, if you're like, hey, so Jeremy, why did you pop two awakening shots there? I'm just like, you just wouldn't get it, bro. I was poking them out. Yeah, let me just stack up my Thor ultimate and give the Luna Snow or ultimate early. Yes, as we all know, Thor ultimate, it's very revolutionary in team fights. I feel like with that also, it's it's whenever I start going into a full awakening mode. I'm not even going for the Storm Surges, I'm not really looking for other ways that I can Storm Surge enemies around. It's just I'm in full awakening mode, because there's a lot of moments where genuinely, even against shield tanks, they have this stigma towards the play style whenever you start pushing people around and they're just like, oh, yeah, this guy's playing this easy play style, I'll just counter him. Like the strange players or the mag players, especially these strange players nowadays, they've been getting cocky, bro. This this invise team up got them acted up, but yeah, they'll like walk out of place, or they'll get cocky with it. Sometimes, it's just better to just pop the Storm Surge instead of going into awakening to do more damage. There's times where I put against a groot as well and I tried to just break his walls down or just kill him as well instead of just pushing him, but, bro, it's a groot. where's he going to go if you just push him into your back line again? As long as you have somebody else there to chew at him, but hey, those days where I'm just spamming awakening off cool down, and you're missing shots, oh, man. Yeah, I go on P K immediately. Go back to positioning as well. Just that in general, just identifying what you're playing against, who you're playing against, and where you have to be almost at all times. If you're not just always thinking about where you have to be, it's one of those things where if you're on top of the ball and if you're been if you've been playing the game enough or just even consistently enough, if you just been playing the game in enough days in a row, I feel like your brain just starts to latch onto those things. You guys have seen there's some days where I can just ramble onto the chat the entire time, just ramble, ramble, and it's fine. I can almost be at the right place at the right time, but then there are other days where I can't even identify a thought, I can't even tell you guys what I'm doing myself and then if I go to a play, I'm just it's it's when I'm throwing awakening on main. Just trying to identify what the win cons are of the game at all times, so you're not having to waste a Storm Surge in the moment to get to those spots. You know what I mean? Like imagine if a Hella sets up before you can get there, so now you have to use a Storm Surge to get to where instead of just catching her by surprise, forcing her bird first. You know, the best defense is offense. But yeah, I mean, again, think about it. Imagine if a Thor is just awakening down main the entire time, they use three of their Thor force and now if they have to use their Storm Surge to get over to somebody, they have to use their lightning realm in that interaction then, cuz your awakening you use three, you get one refunded. You fly over somebody, you have zero, then you have to you literally have to hit that shot, hammer throw and lightning realm. Son. Then with that too, whenever I know a day where I'm just targeting somebody out of sheer annoyance. Like if I have a Psylocke who's just chasing me around, just give me just the straight up biggest back shots every single time I pop up to her supports, or I go on the front line, she's always there farming her ultimate off me. And the days where I had to see my blood boiling up and I'm just okay, I'm going to go for Psylocke only, then I'm going to go for only her then. It is what it is. Just just overall just getting too caught up in the moment. Just one of those things where you're tunnel visioning on one thing. It can go along with overextending, but at the same time, it's just it's just tunneling. It's just you have people all around you at all times. And even if you're off to the side, you're just one viewing off to the side, you can still just get caught off guard immediately. It's one of those things where if I just get tunnel visioned on hitting the wrong person, it can end so poorly, and I see that I I see that so many times from my kill cams from my deaths, just looking straight goofy. Ultimate value then too. I I swear, bro, there are some days where the chat will get to me for no reason, and there are other days where the chat will be saying the exact same thing and then it won't get to me at all. Ultimate value is not that important as this character. It really, really, really is okay to try to get ultimate value by either even burning Hella's bird and fighting her in a 1v1 and then just ultimate off cool down, that's a fine way to get ultimate value. Or going for a Luna Snow and just using your ultimate to burn her ultimate, or you go for a play, you maybe you try to make the best calculated play ever, they mag bubble, it is what it is, bro. If you thought about Supush, Sujump, Cloak, Fade, Luna Snow, Speed, you hit the lightning realm, if they use the mag bubble and your team didn't follow up with that pressure because at the end of the day, that Thor ultimate is pressure, it's pressure. It's not just you slamming down and hitting Luna Snow, there are other people as well who have to scatter the entire time that hopefully, maybe, if your team was fighting that, the supports couldn't just automatically heal them then. There are multiple times where you'll see a tank just fall over because if you're ultra a Thor, supports can't just sit there unless obviously they're that far away and they're going to see you in the sky, but if the supports are playing aggressively and you have a moment where you see them playing aggressively, it's not that bad to always ulti to make them scatter. It's one of these things where if they just all turn around, they're not looking for it. The days where I'm just sitting there, trying to get ultimate value off cool down and doing absolutely nothing with my ultimate then because I'm trying to hold onto it forever and ever and ever, it's looking for the best perfect moment ever. The thought if you're just not wanting to mess up the ultimate but in reality, brother, just go for a play because everyone else is too. Not every ultimate is guaranteed in this game and yeah, Thor ultimate is pretty poo, but just throw it out there then. Just just throw it out there then. I think also just the days where I'm tilting at the video game for no reason. There are things in this video game that you just can't control, like I'm pretty sure almost everyone should know by now that there is some sort of E M M built-in system. There there is some sort of system built-in. I don't know what it If you watch the rank one players attitude, and you watch his streams, he's the most chill guy. Every single time he has a one trick on his team, he's never just ever flaming the guy hard. He identifies that he has a one trick and he tells the guy how he can win the game then, he'll say like, peel me, peel me, do this for me. He's not tilting at the idea that he has X player on his team, he's not burning bridges, he just plays the game out. If he wins, he wins. If he loses, he avoids and goes next, tries to win the game then by banning the character out or just beating the character because he knows it's a bad character. But the days where I just am getting worked up over nothing, getting worked up over matchmaking, it's just you literally end up wasting a full day, because then I'll think to myself the next day and be like, oh, I just dropped this amount of points. So what the heck, bro? Am I am I actually like I poo-poo ka ka? Am I my trash? Like what's going on here? And then I'll like change up my entire Thor play style then. I'll I'll start to be like, okay, well, maybe I shouldn't be the super aggressive guy anymore. And it's like, bro, well, every single game is different, so you can't just now only be the passive guy. So what are we doing? And yeah, you just enter a cycle of just bad loops, bad loops. But the biggest point of that was, some people don't even take video games as seriously as video games, I guess in this day and age should be taken. I mean, realistically, if you think about it, you're playing a million dollar competitive game. You're playing a game that's competitive. It's versus other players, and you can rank up up to a point where you can make either millions of dollars, or you can make thousands of dollars being a really good streamer, and also genuinely start a college career in some of these games, because they're they're Esports. So as corny as that sounds to some people, bro, it's competitive, it's someone's personal life, it's someone's career. There's just things that are different when you're playing in a lobby of pro players versus playing in a lobby of even top 500 players, those two things are completely different. The pro players at the very, very, very top are thinking about everything. They're thinking about ability usage for themselves, if they can play aggressively with their ability usage, if the enemy has their abilities up, and it's not just long cooldowns, Loki runes, it's everything. Mag bubble, if they have power spikes to be able to go on with Soul bound, they can walk in and then they're also developing offensive strategy at the same time. With all that comes the aim as well, and then also positioning, having to figure out where you want to be at the right time so you're not walking too far forward away from your healers or walking too far backwards and giving up too much space when you have time to play aggressively. Thinking about it, it's like a board game except no one has any downtime. You can just always be rolling your turn 24/7. So if you end up getting lapped, it's like a race. If you get lapped, you have to catch up now to figure out ways that you can catch up. You can't just play the exact same normal game and drive the exact same pace because they're ahead of you now. But then those players can also throw out the game and lose their advantages, so it's just dissecting those ways to get around the enemies and trying to figure out how you can do that. So with all that being said, obviously there are a wave of players who do think like that, and you have them there. But then you also have players in Marvel Rivals who don't really even think about their next play. They don't think about what they're going to do next, and they come from a whole different game genre, but they still ended up getting to the highest rank in the game. Trust me, there there are so many players that I've met. They only played League of Legends, and they only played like Roblox or Unturned. They played the weirdest games ever before Marvel Rivals, but I guess their skill set just ended up developing into a top 500 skill set. So if you hear about those two players being in the matchmaking, and even that adding more of a friction gap to everything, then can you really even be upset if you're just losing games in a stomp sometimes? It's just, but yeah, I mean, even if you get to the highest rank, you have games that are super, super interesting to watch, if you have players who are just willing to succumb to what they're playing against or what they have to play with. If you have players who are just accepting the fact that you can get to top 100, if you're just only playing one character and you come from a different game genres, who aren't Overwatch professionals, are still going to the game. They're still good. They're still there for a reason, bro. They're still good. There's so many different identities that people take in this game, that if you get flushed, flustered and frustrated over the fact that you're just losing games because people are X, Y and Z, then then that's how you're going to lose on Thor. Because it feels like honestly, Celestial, Eternity, top 100, it's not even about if you can carry the game. It's if you can just be the guy who repairs all the holes in the canoe. Just figure out what the problem is, who's poking the holes. Is it a diver? Okay, I'll play my supports a little bit further back. It's fine, it's fine, it's fine. I just won't play aggressively this game. Some games you have to play back because you have people that just they're getting doved, or they just they don't know they can play aggressively, or they're autofill, or they're on a 16 game loss streak, or they're tired, or they're tilted. You never know. It literally this is what it is. I mean, I I can't I can't fix the minority report. There's outcomes that they just know that you can't even tell. I swear, there are moments that happened in this game sometimes that you you can't even describe it. How can someone's win rate tell that they're going to alt the late as invis? It it just like, bro, I swear, I'm not even in the game right now. The games could be going so well, you would have won the fight if your team would have just used ultimate, but you end up losing because of that. And it's like, dog, I almost just changed the entire game because I was just sticking I was sticking my neck out. I was trying my best, but they just didn't even alte. How does the E M M know that? It's got to be a minority report. It's got like it's there's got to be the big G, and I don't mean I don't mean I mean the double G, the double G. There are sometimes we're going to be playing a game where somebody might not be on their main role. You might have five people who are on the main role. You might have an entire team of players who aren't playing their main role, and people are just filling around because they want to have fun. You got to people who aren't on their main account. You got to people who've been up for 16 hours and you just started your first hour. You got to people who have been literally playing on a different server and now we're back on their main server. You got to have somebody who's on 400 ping. You could have somebody who just lost their grandma. You could have someone who just lost their dad. You could have someone who just bought their account. You could have a hacker, you could have a cheater, and the what ifs are really annoying to hear about, because everyone wants to always problem solve something. They always want to figure out how to do this, otherwise it's really frustrating. But but the simple and most frustrating answer is things just happen. I'm not Doctor K, but I'm just saying I'm just saying don't those days of where I can see myself freaking out about those things. It's just like, dog, I mean, that's just the world we're living in. It's unfortunate. You can't get annoyed at that stuff, otherwise you're going to be annoyed 24/7. This is a five-minute Marvel Rivals game. There's not even enough time to assess what you can be doing differently in some of these games, cuz nine times out of 10 someone will just throw the game before it even gets to that situation. If that makes any sense. Like in League, the games last 30 to 40 minutes and there's so many ways you can come back in those type of games by either just waiting the game out, farming better than somebody, which means just making more money. Like there's ways to make money in those games, you just make more money. You can just be fighting smarter, but in these type of games, when you have, get ready to put on a show and that changes literally the entire team fight. In a game where everything is determined by one ability as well. Hey, the games are five minutes long, people don't care about throwing, there's no anti-cheat and it's one of these things where I'll get so tilted that I won't even see the wins that I possibly have, cuz there are a lot of ways where if you just if you just give it your A game and you're just playing the best of your ability, if you have somebody else who's also doing the same thing, some of these games are actually winnable. But it's the games where you're super tilted from the last couple of games that just happened in a row that you couldn't control and they're going into the next game and you're like, "Fucking teammates suck!" They do suck, but I got to win this game though. And the crash out streams are funny, the crash out streams are hilarious, but it's more funny to crash out at like the idea of somebody just missing their ultimate, as opposed to somebody just just it's it's just more funny to crash out over a scenario, over crash out at somebody else. And then after all that too, then after like the the Demotion, the bad games, everything like that, you'll go to sleep, expect the next day to be even better. But maybe you'll like go in the shower, get up, have that energy drink this day instead of eating food, then go play right away. I feel like that also is the worst day ever for me, because deep down, I know I should probably be eating cereal at least. I mean, I should be getting the big breakfast in, but at least put something in your body, like some some Quaker Oats at least, eat something. But the days around I'm just like, okay, that was trash, that was terrible. I got to fix this, I got to fix this. Edit a video, go to sleep, wake up, energy drink, go live, and that's that's atomic failure right there. That's absolute failure right there. That's a a big fat L. Overall, this is a video game at the end of the day, so people are almost always going to play it like a video game. I mean, how I played video games back in the day growing up was I would launch them, I would play, I would go, save it a typewriter and then I would log off, go back on the next day, or it would be I would press save and I would get off, or even for Call of Duty, I would get on and I'll try to just do my best, try to drop like 30 kills, and I'll just get off. I never actually took that much consideration or or thought into my strategy that those type of games. I feel like, but when I have a lot of people that are coming to me and they're just asking the generic question. I would almost always give them the most generic answer of, oh, yeah, just land your shots, you know, make sure you hit your lightning realm, make sure you hit your awakening, make sure you're waiting for ability cooldowns to be out like Loki cooldowns or maybe someone's ultimate, make sure you're trying to get ultimate value here. And that always just answer the same out like, oh, thanks. But then I would go into more detail about, oh, yeah, you know, because I feel like whenever I'm tilting and I'm not playing my best, or whenever I'm just missing all my abilities, and whenever I feel like I'm just not really like taking the game too seriously, and they're like, oh, true, true, true. It has seemed like people would get more help out of me answering the question if I were to just tell them my problems, how to lose at the game as opposed to if I were to tell them, yeah, make sure you're always landing your shots, and uh, make sure you're pushing them into your team. At this point in the game, there's like, there's triple support comps, there's quadruple tank comps, there's one single tank comp, there's triple DPS, four DPS comps. At this point, I feel like there really is no generic way I can say, oh, yeah, just play the game like this. Yeah, just push them in. I can't just answer the question of just do that. I don't think anybody can. I mean, the game's a hero shooter for a reason. You're you're meant to switch out characters as the game goes on because characters are, I guess, quote unquote your items, how you would in a game like League of Legends or Deadlock. Your characters are your counter. But yeah, if you watch this far into the end, you're probably wondering where the fuck are the streams at. My bad for the language, but I think we're far enough in the video. It should be fine. Uh, I moved to Pennsylvania for about eight months with a girlfriend, and we ended up just didn't work out. Things happened, just didn't work out, so we're back here at the pop's place, if you guys recognize the background. We are at the pop's place. Essentially, the internet was pretty god-awful, it was like 30 megabytes a second, so we got that all set up, but the initial day, it didn't end up getting all fully set up, so they had to come back. Also, I had to leave a lot of appliances there because I just had to kind of take my car and go, so it was one of those things where my chair was one of those things that it stayed, and I was rocking this chair for like, four days. But I ended up purchasing a brand new chair just to keep it going, and we also have a brand new camera coming because we were very generously gifted like 150 freaking subs, 200 subs on Twitch. Whether it's, you know, me playing some Deadlock or me, you know, streaming a couple hours a day and then back to editing. The goal is just to try to stay as consistent as possible, and if the days aren't going to be long days, then they'll still be stream days in general. Just just stream days in general. And furthermore as well, we're working on an editor, as you guys saw, from the thumbnails, they've all been getting a little bit more better and better. You guys can totally see whenever I have my thumbnails that are rocking out, but hey, whenever you see a great one though, those are the ones that I'm trying to get more and more people involved in. So, it's one of these things where we're just trying to remove friction as slowly as possible, and being in this brand new house, and being back in the old house is humbling, but we'll get through it. Thank you guys for the support. Thank you guys for the watching the videos. Thank you guys for always being there. Thank you guys for just this year in general, this year and a half in general. I hope to see you guys in the streams, and I hope I can make it up to you guys. Peace out.